Spy X Family: Yor Forger (INFP)
Spy X Family is an incredibly enjoyable anime that Ryan and I recommend whole-heartedly. It provides lighthearted entertainment, with the perfect mix of comedy and action. We already typed Loid Forger from Spy X Family, which you can read here. Yor Forger was a bit harder to peg down, for a couple of reasons. The most obvious is that she gets less focused on than Loid, so her development happens at a much slower pace. The second reason is that she fits into a couple of different tropes, that can make her easy to mistype at a glance. For instance, her job as an assassin and general tendency to be physically adept might drive someone to label her as an ISFP. Or, her desire for a simple life, her role as a mother, and her tendency to want to please those she’s close to might point people toward ISFJ. However, we believe there’s a solid case for INFP, which we’ll explain below.
Fi:
“What I heard is that there’s a traitorous scumbag staying here.”
“It’s happening so fast, but he’s probably the only person in the world who could accept me for who I am.”
“I know they’ll vouch for us. We just have to believe.”
“What Loid wants to do with his life is none of my business.”
Yor is a meek and quiet individual who lives primarily in her own internal world. She tends to zone out around others, which can lead to her being disconnected from her surroundings. (For instance, she’s shown walking into a streetlamp, and other times seeming confused when addressed suddenly.)
Yor doesn’t pay much attention to social expectations by default. For instance, Yor isn’t bothered by her lack of a boyfriend until her brother expresses concern about it. To make matters worse, her coworkers suggest that someone her age without a husband or prospect of some kind is highly suspicious. As a secret assassin, Yor begins worrying when they point this out, and only then feels truly compelled to resolve the issue. In other words, social expectations didn’t bother (and she didn’t really notice them) until they directly interfered with her security and intimate relationships. This is shown on multiple other occasions, such as feeling the need to maintain good work relationships for the sake of her brother rather than for the sake of endearing herself to the group.
Yor has a strong sense of right and wrong. While she started her work as an assassin in order to support her brother, she believes what she’s doing is for the greater good, in spite of its sinister nature. In addition, she instantly launches into action whenever she sees someone in trouble. Yor often chooses to trusts her feelings, even if they lead her to make a decision that doesn’t seem logical.
When Yor accepts Loid’s marriage proposal, she thinks to herself that he’s the only one who can accept her for who she is, which is something that is very important to her. In return, she accepts him as he is. She goes along with their arrangement, but doesn’t stick her nose in his business. Essentially, she keeps expectations out of it. Yor lets him do his thing without meddling in his affairs, and rarely seems bothered by being left in the dark. In other words, her focus is overall individualistic in nature.
Ne:
“Variety is the spice of life.”
“I’ve read somewhere that your first kiss tastes like lemons. That’ll go perfectly with this marinated fish.”
Yor is a perceiver through and through. For instance, she makes the sudden decision to marry Loid, after only knowing him for a couple of days. In addition, she expresses the desire for Anya to enjoy her time at school, rather than just work hard. Even going to the grocery store shows Yor’s tendency to not think things out too far in advance. At one point, Yor doesn’t know what she’s going to cook later, or what everything is that she’s buying, but she figures she’ll be covered if she just buys a few of each.
When it comes to Ne evidence specifically, Yor frequently gets lost in potential scenarios, struggling to stay in the moment as a result. Some of these scenarios are decidedly paranoid, but she seems to place some degree of trust in them regardless. For instance, when she loses Anya at a pet show, Yor’s first concern is that one of the dogs had eaten the girl. After a moment, she realizes that scenario is unrealistic, and then moves on to consider kidnapping. Once that appears to be the case, Yor gets it in her head that the kidnappers were stealing Anya to marry her off, even though there was nothing to physically suggest this possibility. She even proclaims to the kidnappers that Anya is too young to get married.
Yor’s tendency to run scenarios doesn’t just happen in extreme situations like the one above. On a daily basis, she mentally plays out scenarios such as getting surrounded by children if she dresses like a teacher, or Anya getting expelled for forgetting her gym clothes. Yor overall has a very vivid imagination, which is demonstrated exceptionally well when she imagines showing Anya her second job for Anya’s job investigation assignment.
Si:
Yor’s internal world tends to be very detailed. It never appears to be vague. Instead, she’ll fixate on the small details of the different scenarios that she runs. Anya’s job investigation assignment mentioned above is a good example of this. Yor imagines taking Anya on an assassination, teaching her proper techniques, explaining anatomy to her, and even what excuse they’d give Loid for the blood on their clothing.
Although, Yor doesn’t get the same prominent focus in this series as Loid, she does appear to associate current happenings to past experience or memories. For instance, she holds hands with Anya for the first time, and feels reminded of when her brother was that little. She then jumps to a somewhat unrelated memory of hugging him too hard and breaking two of his ribs. Yor then reminds herself that she “can’t do that again.”
Te:
Yor often feels insecure about her capabilities in the real world. She has certain things that she feels confident in, such as cleaning and killing. However, beyond that, she suffers from feelings of inferiority, especially in regard to cooking and motherhood. Similarly, when a former female colleague of Loid’s shows up, Yor worries that Loid will deem this new woman to be a better wife and mother. However, she tries to hide these feelings from Loid, for the most part, and does strive to improve however possible. For instance, when it comes to cooking, she secretly takes lessons from a co-worker.
Yor is not typically shown forming concrete plans on her own. She responds to the moment, follows orders, or follows Loid’s lead. She’s not driven by any specific ambition, beyond the good she believes she’s doing in her job or caring for those close to her. Yor readily allows Loid to provide the structure in the family.
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I see yor much more as INTP than INFP. Somehow I can’t understand Fi-dom at all because Fi is about defined values, ideals, beliefs and principles that you act on. This is not true of Yor at all, she feels bad when she can’t conform to common values rather than making up her own and tends to conform. Fi-dom is described by Jung as a very cold and unemotional function that because they tend to internalize their feelings, which is why they appear expressionless. This contradicts Yor, who, according to her members, appears to be a robot, but she still seems very open about her feelings. I see a lot more Tine in Your, which is why she shows to be consistently over-analyzing things or good at problem-solving, because she is said to be very intelligent and analytical in her job. Yor fits exactly the definition of Fe-inf on your part. I see a lot more Fe-inf and Fi-demon because Yor does exactly what others want and adapts to them.
Interesting theory. For the record, Jung describes Fi as cold, sure, but not unemotional. (For instance, he states early on that Fi types are guided by their subjective feelings.) Jung describes Ti in an unemotional way. But reality often doesn’t reflect the extreme way Jung described the functions, because he was describing extremely unhealthy, imbalanced individuals.
Beyond that, being cold and expressionless aren’t necessarily the same thing. It’s common for Ti Doms to appear expressionless because of their lack of Fi and general detachment from any feeling function (as feeling inferiors). Whereas, closed off Fi dominants will appear cold but not necessarily expressionless, because they’re closely connected to self but not the external environment. A Fi dominant (healthy one, of course) is more likely to be generally emotionally expressive or open about their feelings than a Ti dominant because the Fi dominant at least values feelings. Ti dominants will try to suppress their feelings, devalue them, and rationalize them away. They’re more likely to fake shallow emotions than actually be open about their true feelings.
We generally see Yor as a feeler, or at least someone with a developed feeling function, because of the degree (and ease) to which she is emotionally expressive and empathetic. Plus, in her dealings with Loid, Anya, her brother, and even others, we never really see Ti’s cynical or critical nature slip out.
Our second possibility/theory was ISFJ because of some of the Fe-like struggles she seems to have. But her potential “Fe” struggles seem mainly instigated by her brother (or someone else intimately connected to her) or a need for security, rather than a general need to belong or adhere to social convention, which is why they don’t actually seem to be rooted in Fe. (In our opinion, of course). Yor’s initial instinct is not to follow social convention, but to keep doing her own thing. However, she has to protect herself from being exposed, which would motivate anyone to make others see them in a favorable light. But overall, she adapts to others fairly poorly, which is why she doesn’t have good relationships with most people at her day job.
I can understand why people don’t vote for Yor as INTP. The problem, which is why many INTP don’t consider or want to see and often react negatively, is that firstly, Yor is portrayed as very dimwitted and naive (which totally contradicts the INTP stereotype that they are super smart) and im compared to characters who as INTP is voted like L, looks way too stupid. Nobody would intuitively think of giving L and Yor the same personality type at first glance, which I would never have done either. However, on closer inspection, both L and Yor have the same problems, which they handle differently. The reason why Yor is different than the typical INTP, let’s take L as an example, when I talk about him can be the following; Gender, killed, social expectations, intelligence, hobbies and personality in the form of Big Five. Yor, although socially awkward and having trouble understanding social signs and being many times worse than L, is much more compassionate and can feel much more empathy for others, which L cannot, although L understands the feelings of others and Yor is much more neurotic , has a lack of self-confidence, shame and strong fears, which is not the case with L. As a result, she shows much more nervousness and love for her closest ones.
Yor is best compared in character to Pieck Finger and Froppy, both of whom are also INTP. In fact, I find Yor to be a much more realistic representation of an INTP than characters like L or Kenma, because that’s how an average INTP behaves and isn’t often the hyper-intelligent genius and is often insecure in situations where you have to take initiative because they’re due to Ti -Ne and Fe-inf overanalyze too much, considering every worst-case scenario and feeling awkward in social situations.
For example, I see myself much more in Yor’s behavior pattern because I behave like this almost 1:1, think too much and feel uncomfortable to nervous when I have to talk to strangers and I’m always worried about what they think about me.
This overthinking often shows Yor to overanalyze things far more than is necessary and believes that she is the reason her relationships with others can break down.
Also, Yor is not really expressive outside of close family and friends, she has been described as a robot by her co-workers due to her nature.
It’s slightly off-topic, but I also noticed how completely different INFP and ISFP are seen in contrast to ESTJ and ENTJ. While ISFP tends to be seen as cool, rebellious, individualistic, and the nastiest of edgelords, INFP will always be seen as the complete opposite of crybabies, followers, and wimps, despite having the same dom function. That’s why I see most INFPs as mistypes because hate characters are often voted as INFP and even popular INFPs are voted more as ISTJ or ISFP because INFP has a very bad reputation. Personally, I see Giyu and Katana Man as INFPs, which are never voted as INFPs due to the prejudice.