Which Personality Type is the Most Abstract?
There is a lot of debate in the MBTI community about which personality type is the most abstract, or which cognitive functions are the most abstract. From what I have seen, it mostly boils down to three different aspects, depending on who you ask. So, I figured since I was thinking about it, I might as well write those thoughts down and walk everyone through my thought process. (If you recognize some of the information below, this is an expansion on a old article called Introverted Thinking (Ti) vs. Introverted Intuition (Ni): A Closer Look which is also in the process of being updated.) Without further ado, let’s dive in.
Intuition Is More Abstract Than Sensing
This should come as no big surprise to anyone, since it is the most common point that comes up when people start discussing this topic. Intuition, in and of itself, is abstract simply because of what it is based in. Jung describes intuition as follows:
Intuition’s abstraction comes simply from the mere fact that the information that it perceives is unconscious, and thus abstracted from what we usually take in as concrete or explainable. Unlike sensing, which is rooted in perceiving the physical world, intuition is focused on the opposite side of the coin, focusing on the things that cannot be seen or quantified and yet nevertheless are there. Unlike what some people propose, though, Jung posits that intuition happens on an unconscious level, rather than being derived or produced consciously, of one’s own volition.
Introverted Functions Are More Abstract Than Extraverted
This is another comparison that on its face makes a certain degree of sense, but is not quite as straightforward as the first comparison. The main line of reasoning here is that extraverted functions are focused on objects, and hence, are focused outward on the external world. This makes them easier to see, and as a consequence, makes them less abstract. Meanwhile, introverted functions are focused inward on the self, and this obscures them from the observation of others. So, while not all the introverted functions will feel more abstract to the individual that is utilizing said function, to observers that function’s use will be abstract. They will only be able to see it when the person actively shares what’s going on inside their head.
Feeling Functions Are More Abstract Than Thinking
This one is a position I am personally less sure about, but the supposition goes as follows: Because feeling functions are reliant on emotional data to make judgements, they are more abstract in the judgements that they make because emotions are an abstraction. While someone may try to form logical rules concerning how to respond to emotional data, emotions themselves don’t follow the rules of logic. On the other hand, thinking is a supposed bastion of hard logic, which should make it easier to explain, cross-reference, and otherwise track in a concrete way. Logic usually starts with some form of concrete, or physical data. Since feeling-based judgements start with feelings, they are difficult to logically explain. For these reasons, the feeling functions are viewed as more abstract.
Related Article: Detached From Reality: Intuitive?
Examples Of How This Manifests
Now, with that groundwork laid, let’s look at some examples of how this manifests within the functions.
Example 1
1 + 1 = 2 is completely concrete. The information (1, 1) being Si and the equation (+, =) being Te.
A + B = 2 is abstract information with a straightforward way of getting there. The information (A,B) is abstract and cannot be readily explained, making it Ni. However, the equation (+, =) being Te is still straightforward and easily explained.
would be concrete information (Si) with an abstract way of getting there (Ti). The information is all there, but all the components, or logic, isn’t straightforward. There isn’t an easily explained way of getting to the solution (2).
would be abstract information (Ni) and an abstract way of getting there (Ti). In the last example, neither the way of getting to the solution nor the information itself is readily clear. Notice though how every equation still ultimately lead to the same answer: 2. Each personality type just has a different way of getting there. Basically, someone with Ni will struggle to tell you how or why they picked up a piece of information they know. Whereas someone with Ti will struggle to explain how exactly they figured something out, or how they made a judgement on what connections make sense to them.
Example 2
Let’s look at it from a different angle. Take a look at the graph below. Note that anything with solid lines is concrete and easily explained, while anything with dotted lines is abstract and isn’t easily explained to others.
STPs/NFJs
As you can see, STPs and NFJs are working with both abstract information (Ni) and abstract connections (Ti) which is why they have some of the problems with communicating that Mara covered in this article here. I feel like I should take this moment to reiterate something: just because your function set makes it hard to relay your thoughts into concrete words and concepts doesn’t mean you are smarter or dumber than anyone else. Intelligence is in no way connected to personality type.
However, dealing primarily with abstract thoughts and connections will lead you to having completely different perspectives on problems and situations. The Ni-Ti combination will draw the user to focus on the things that aren’t readily seen and observed; and they will prioritize making connections that, at first, will probably only make sense to them and no one else, instead of dealing first with the tangible information. I often say that Mara (ISTP) and I (ISTJ) work a problem from opposite directions. This is true because she goes from abstract to concrete, while I start with the concrete and work my way toward the abstract.
NTJs/SFPs
Moving on to the next group, NTJs and SFPs are working with abstract information (Ni), but they are not dealing with abstract connections. These types usually can walk you through what they have figured out or what they believe is going to happen. The part they may struggle to explain is how they derived the information they used to come to that conclusion. This leaves them with the reputation of ‘just knowing’ things, especially if you have witnessed them being right time and time again. The problem here is two fold. Not only is Ni storing all the information they have gathered as abstract impressions, Ni also causes the user to pull things that were abstract to begin with. Ergo, those with Ni end up ‘reading between the lines’. They tend to be more interested in the spirit of what was said rather than what was actually said.
For example: his words were saying one thing, but his body language was clearly saying something else. While the body language may have been clear to the Ni user, it may not have been so clear for those who don’t have that trait. It’s like when you walk up to someone, and they have the friendly facade and they speak with you cordially, but after you walk away your friend looks at you and says ‘that guy hates our guts’. While it wasn’t readily obvious, Ni picked up on the abstract details and allowed the user to draw that conclusion.
NTPs/SFJs
Now we have the NTPs and the SFJs. These two are not working with abstract information, but the connections they are making are abstract (Ti). So, while they will be able to explain to you every piece of information that led them to their conclusion, it may be a challenge trying to follow the paths that they took to connect everything together. It’s like those crime boards you see in all the shows where the red lines are connecting pictures and newspaper articles together. All the information is there and is concrete, but unless you have some kind of guide, someone else’s crime board is going to look like nothing but a chaotic nonsensical mess. This is the reason that Ti users can end up looking like intuitives. It is the abstract nature of their thought processes. Unfortunately, people tend to label anything that is abstract as intuition.
STJs/NFPs
Finally, we have the STJs and NFPs. I will only touch on them briefly because they aren’t what this article is about. Notice they have both concrete thoughts and connections. This makes these types the most straightforward and easy to follow, usually. Now, this doesn’t mean that they can’t pick up on things that other people might miss, but the difference lies in how they will do it. These types are going to pick up on tiny specific details that others have glossed over, instead of making abstract connections that are ultimately difficult to explain to someone else.
So, Which Personality Type Is The Most Abstract?
Based off of all the given information, it all seems to point to the INFJ as having the most abstract functions in the highest positions in their stack. Leading with Ni gives them both an intuition function as their lead, but it is also introverted, which leads to another layer of abstraction. Their secondary function is a feeling function which is supposedly more abstract than a thinking function, which would lead to them edging out the INTJ. Furthermore, they use Ti as opposed to Te which would arguably be a more abstract thinking function due to it being introverted. And lastly they have Se as their weakness, leaving what should be one of the most concrete of the functions as a pain point for them fighting against their dominant.
Well, I hope you all enjoyed coming with me on this thought trail. Do you think I got the right type? Do you think my reasoning for it was sound? Let us know in the comments down below!
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I’m not too sure myself either about the feeling functions in general being more abstract than the thinking functions, especially Fe. I’m going to attempt at explaining my understanding of all this and also why I think INFJs aren’t necessarily the most abstract compared to the other NFJ and STPs. The reasons why I don’t think Fe is more abstract than say Ti because I’m not too sure how feelings come from an abstraction? Could you elaborate on that more in some future article? I think emotions have their own rules, distinct from the logical ones. They’re there for a reason, right? They serve as a sign to tell us something. If you are fully disconnected from your own emotions, you’re sort of at a disadvantage to be honest. It’s like how you can discern and distinguish dreams from reality. You’d think dreams are inconsistent and don’t have their own rules but I think they still do have their own internal consistency, they’re just not as easily understood. In that regard, dreams are not different from reality. I think emotions are the same way.
The second reason is connected to a video I was watching the other day that explains why you don’t talk the way you do in your mind (link : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-Zel07vrro). In it, it explains that communication is a skill and like any skill, you can improve it. There are three things you can do to improve it. You can write things down (basically journaling), you can roleplay (with yourself or another person), and the third thing, is that you can place yourself in the shoes of other people because what you understand perfectly is not perfectly understood by the other person. There are assumptions in the line of thinking that must be relayed to the other person for the communication to be effective. That third one is very characteristically Fe, though not necessarily I think. In the vid, there’s an explanation about how the third thing naturally engages the empathic circuits of your brain and blah blah, you can watch that if you want, but basically I don’t believe Fe is more abstract because people who use this function highly, on average I believe, engage in a thinking that makes them try more than other types to assess what the other person understands and thinks and relays what’s missing. Of course, this is my theory and far from practice. They may struggly to do it but still have a strong desire for it. I’m not too sure myself, there might some gaps in my own understanding that might need some fleshing out. I’m still in the process of connecting some dots but essentially, that’s that. Also btw, idk if you guys care about stuff like this but there’s an s that shouldn’t be there at the end of “functions” in the conclusion paragraph.
Very interesting take! I never considered emotions having “rules”. I don’t think I’m that good with emotions (others or my own). So I’m not really sure what to make of that other than that it’s interesting to consider, haha.
About the Te vs. Fe abstractness comparison, you may not agree with me but this is my take on it: Te is sometimes described as about trying to control the physical environment. For me, the more physical, or concrete, something is the less abstract it becomes. Te users often (but not necessarily always) like to organize their environment, for instance. I’m not an expert on Te but I think that along with the fact that Te tends to use external, (maybe?) more concrete measurements and benchmarks roots it more in the physical world compared to Fe. (Though, the concept of control that Te is closely related to could be considered abstract… but not always? Ugh, I don’t want to open that can of worms right now for the sake of “brevity”, even though this reply is already pretty long. 🐛)
Fe is more about controlling the emotional… environment? It’s not something you can see, hear or touch (Well, unless someone’s being very emotive like crying or physically affectionate like hugging, I suppose.) so I think of it as being more abstract. For instance, a Te user may make it a goal to have the best grades in their class. There are concrete, physical ways to measure that: Grades, Report Cards, G.P.A, etc. An Fe user could make a goal of being the most well-liked student in class, which… would be harder to measure and thus wanders more into the abstract, in my opinion. Would you measure that by people’s emotional responses towards you? How would you be aware of that and measure it? Would you measure it by how people treat you? What if they’re just faking being nice and don’t actually like you? I think in a lot of instances they kind of just have to “feel it out” which makes me think “abstract” more than Te’s methods of measuring itself.
It’s fine if you still disagree or have some misgivings that was just my take on things, haha.
The way that I see it is that Fe is still a pretty concrete function, just not concrete in terms of measurements. Being the most well-liked student is still concrete, just not easily measurable (unless people want to go as far as making voting poll for the most well-liked person in class, but most classes don’t do that). I think introversion and intuition are way stronger factors than feeling > thinking. There’s much more that I could possibly say but this whole discussion is pretty abstract unironically and I’m getting bored.
Alright, I can respect that lol. I wasn’t really hoping to get into a full-blown discussion so it’s fine if you’re tired of the conversation, haha. (I can relate to wanting to leave a conversation and do something else…)
Yes! 😁 I was right! Something interesting to maybe consider concerning INFJs is that even if their thought process uses “the most abstract functions”, it’s possible they may not appear that way due to Fe use. Like for instance if they notice that they tend to bring down the mood when they share a certain thing they noticed they might be hesitant to share their more abstract thoughts.
Like for instance, there’s an ASMR YouTuber I follow called “ASMR Glow” (Real name Sharon, I’m pretty sure? She says it in a bunch of videos and has it listed on some social media so I’m not doxxing or anything, I’m pretty sure, haha.) who self-identified as an INFJ (listed as an INFP elsewhere but I’m more inclined to believe Fe > Fi due to her saying she does stuff like buy things from vendors because she’s uncomfortable saying no to buying the stuff, and her adoption of values from others like when she says she was inspired by her now-husband’s “edgy” music. Not saying an Fi dominant can’t do these things but I don’t really see much Fi evidence. Though, I’m not exactly an expert on Fi…) is pretty good at creating the moods she wants in her videos. The ASMR videos are relaxing and cozy (unless she’s not going for that like with the Halloween 🎃 videos), while the videos she posts on her “Shaz” channel seem to be more lighthearted and goofy. 🫠 It’s been said elsewhere that Ni isn’t as likely to share insights or abstract patterns since they’re more meant for the user, but I think she does it if it seems like a good time. I remember during one of her pep talk videos she was talking about how people don’t seem to like wearing color anymore and how that’s related to everyone being more downtrodden nowadays. (I’m not sure if she said one was because of the other, but I do remember her saying something like that.) Most of the time she doesn’t seem all that abstract (or “mystical” as some people would probably put it, though she does have a fantasy book I’m in the process of reading, haha), though. I guess because most of the time it’s about helping the viewer chill so they can go to bed or just making a funny video getting exercise tips from her brother, haha.
Also, I’d like to say that INFJs have interesting ideas about humanity and how the world works and it’s interesting listening 🎧 to them lol.
Hi, Arnold.
Emotions overall are abstract. They are intangible. You cannot smell them, you cannot hear them, you cannot touch them, you cannot see them. Yet you feel them, you know that they are there, and they do affect the world. Hence why I think it makes sense that Feeling functions are more abstract than those of Thinking.
Fe feels the slightest variations/nuances in emotions the tribe is feeling, whereas Fi feels the slightest variations/nuances in the emotions of the self. (By definition, of course. This isn’t to say it can’t be vice versa.) Given that they both revolve around emotions, Fe and Fi are abstract.
I think Fi being abstract is quite self-explanatory, but let me explain more on Fe. Fe is very much about vibes/vibrations. A person walks into the room, and you can already sense an energy around them. You can feel another’s emotions as if they are your own; in fact, many a time Fe-users struggle to distinguish between others’ and their own emotions, to the point that an Fe-user can end up confusing the emotions they absorbed from others as their own. (For instance, an Fe-user had a chat with that woman who recently got fired from her job in the cafe down the street, absorbed her frustration and despair unconsciously, and for the next one day or more, the Fe-user themself might feel frustrated and despairing too, without realising that those emotions are not actually their own.) That in and of itself is rather abstract.
Yeah, I hope that was helpful. Ti is also abstract, because it concerns one’s own thought processes. Even though I think it makes sense why Feeling functions may be more abstract, I’m still not 100% sure on that, and I’m still debating whether Fe is more abstract or Ti.
Also, I’m curious, what is your type? You seem to be a high Fi-user to me. I’m an infj with a strongly developed Ti (to the point where I sometimes feel like it’s my auxiliary function).
Hey.
You raise some good points. My main issue was understanding clearly how abstraction relates to all the functions, specifically the judging functions. With intuition functions, it’s easy to see why intuition is more abstract than sensing because the definition of abstract is something that is completely conceptual and revolves around ideas, instead of around something that is physical or concretely existing. Fundamentally, Intuition is about ideas that are not yet real (or will never be real), making it abstract. Introversion is the same. It’s about subjective processes (analysis, interpretation, etc.) that can be derived from the objective reality that are not concretely existing.
With feeling functions and thinking functions, I think it is a little bit more nuanced and the definition of why feeling is more abstract than thinking that was written by Ryan above is slightly oversimplified imho. What you said about emotions being intangible and not being sensed… I think that just because something is intangible does not mean it is inherently abstract. Consciousness, for example, can be very abstract. However, as a real thing, it is not inherently abstract. How do I know I am real? It is through consciousness. Why? I learned that it is because even if the world around me is not real, even if I touch an apple, palm it in my head and the apple fades away, even if I am being tricked, I know for a fact that there is something to be tricked. Even within my doubt, the process of doubt proves my existence. This is my consciousness. Cogito ergo sum, right? Both feeling and thinking can be abstract in their own ways. Yes, Te is easily explainable and concrete, dealing with matters that can be measured and quantified. But emotions have concrete physiological and psychological foundations (think of your heart beating super fast or tears coming out of your eyes), making them not so abstract. But, at the same time, Feeling functions deal with emotions, emotions are harder to define, quantify, or systematize than logic. On that same coin, Thinking functions also operate in an abstract realm, especially when dealing with theoretical concepts and principles (especially Ti). I think Ti is way more abstract than Fe off the introversion factor alone, but I won’t dive into that for too long. Either way, if INFJ is the most abstract, it’s definitely not by a long shot. I can see what you were saying about Fe being about vibrations, etc. ; making it more abstract a little, you have a point there. Ni and Ti together make it a close matchup for ISTP and INFJ. Overall, this discussion can go in many directions, Imma just leave it at that.
As for what type I am? I deadass don’t know. I can tell you I’m not an Fi user though…
I’d say that T is more abstract than F. F deals with concrete feelings to specific people and things, while T “abstracts” from their specific traits to focus on their place in the system or on their place in a technological process.
F and N, however, are divergent – both deal with notions that are hard to interpret “one single way”, that allow for a variety of interpretations.
So,
abstract = T + N
concrete = F + S
divergent = F + N
convergent = T + S