Agents of S.H.I.E.LD.: Leopold Fitz (ISFJ)
Most people assume that Leopold Fitz from Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. is an INTP, which I believe is probably because of his role as a scientist. Initially, I did struggle to latch solidly onto a particular personality type. However, as the show progressed, it became abundantly clear (in my opinion), that Fitz is a feeler, and a Si/Ne user. So, while I definitely considered INTP, I think there is a much stronger case for Fitz being an ISFJ. If youโre interested in reading about other characters from this series, be sure to check Grant Ward. Thereโll be more to come very soon!
Si:
โI said there would come a moment when we would regret the decision to go in the field. I didnโt think that would happen in week one.โ
โWhy are you not nervous? โฆAre you mad? โฆ This isโฆ This is a huge risk.โ
โWe should consider all variables as we move forward, because things are bound to get complicated.โ
โYou know how I can be. I hate change.โ
โAnd what exactly defines needing help?โ
โNo, the only thing Iโm afraid of is putrid decaying flesh corrupting my pristine workspace. Do you remember the last time you brought a dead thing into the lab?โ
Fitz appears to be a Si dominant, for multiple reasons. First, Fitz hates change, which he openly admits to at one point when talking to Simmons. For the most part, Fitz prefers to stick with what he knows, which is why heโs one of the few to not ask a lot of questions once S.H.I.E.L.D. is labelled as a terrorist organization. He just continues working under Coulson as he had become accustomed to. However, before that point, when he is first recruited to Coulsonโs team, Fitz does not adjust to it easily, which further demonstrates his struggle with change.
When he and Simmons are initially recruited to Coulsonโs team, Fitz is against going. Simmons has to talk him into it. He tells Simmons that thereโd come a moment that they would regret the decision to go in the field. After about a week, he essentially says, โI told you so,โ by reminding her of that moment. This tendency towards predicting that specific changes will have a negative outcome, and then pointing back to it later, is common for Si dominants (ISFJs and ISTJs).
Fitz is cautious, which is shown often throughout the show. For instance, when he and Simmons finally start a romantic relationship, heโs the one that says that they need to โconsider all variablesโ as they move forward. He also shuts down Simmonsโ enthusiasm at one point over a dead bodyโs unusual temperature, by saying: โNo, not fascinating. Quarantine.โ For one final example, Fitz is extremely wary about the android Radcliffe builds, warning that: โThis could be very dangerous. So much could go wrong.โ In addition, he gets extremely upset when Radcliffe starts passing Aida off as human. He questions Radcliffeโs sanity and claims itโs a huge risk.
Fe:
โBecause sheโs turned her back on us, Mack. Because something terrible happened, and she didnโt want our help getting through it. Well, weโve all been through terrible things. All of us! And weโve never turned our back.โ
โWhy would Skye do this to us for him? I thought she was our friend.โ
โItโs times like these you just stick with the guy you believe in.โ
โWe have to stick together. Keep the people we trust close by.โ
โWe should be protecting her.โ
โYeah, and we were a team, and a family, and you betrayed us.โ
Fitz appears to be primarily driven by Fe values rather than Ti values. Fitz is a deeply loyal individual, who views the team like his family. He often makes value statements to that affect, such as everyone needing to stick together and protect each other. As a result, Fitz deeply struggles with betrayal and anyone who turns their back on the group. Granted, anyone would struggle with betrayal, but Fitz, for instance, doesnโt seem to understand Daisyโs need to get away from S.H.I.E.L.D. after Lincolnโs death. He accuses her of not wanting their help to get through it. Typically, Ti dominants (like the INTP) strongly value autonomy, so the need to separate for a while shouldnโt have been that hard for him to fathom.
To provide further examples, Fitz also struggles to accept Daisyโs betrayal at the beginning of the show, even though he barely knew her. Furthermore, when Ward betrays them, Fitz is the only one who refuses to believe it. On the other hand, Fitzโs loyalty to his team is why he protects Daisy from everyone when her DNA tests first show that sheโs an inhuman. He checks on her often, looks after her, and tries to be supportive. Unlike Simmons, Fitz is ultimately loyal to people first, rather than an agency or a structure, which is another reason why he continues to follow Coulson without question once S.H.I.E.L.D. is officially labelled as a terrorist organization.
In addition to expecting his team to rely on each other, Fitz often relies on others as well. At one point in the show, Simmons states that Fitz hates being alone, which is an accurate observation on her part. Fitz appears to be the type of person who wants to be working alongside someone else, and leaning on them for support. For most of the series, he relies on Simmons, and the two work closely together. However, when she leaves him, he ends up working closely with Mack. In other situations, Fitz opens up to Coulson. Unlike an inferior Fe user (such as the INTP), Fitz doesnโt appear to struggle with being too impersonal or detached. This is why, when asked, heโs able to connect easily with a student from the academy and empathize with him. Itโs also why he doesnโt struggle having conversations of a more personal nature, like when Coulson asks him what he thinks of Lincoln and Fitz finds a way to divert the conversation to his current emotional dilemma.
Ti:
โWhat if Garret put an exploding eye into him to control him? Maybe thatโs why he betrayed us.โ
โI donโt believe that people are born evil. Something must have happened.โ
Fitzโs refusal to believe that Ward had betrayed them is actually, in part, a manifestation of his low Ti. Fitz is unable to see the situation objectively. He canโt personally understand or fathom Ward betraying them, so he refuses to accept the evidence right in front of him. Essentially, he prioritizes what makes sense in his head (Ti), over the objective evidence (Te). However, his Ti is in service to his Fe, so since he struggles to fathom betrayal, he wonโt accept it. He claims that he needs to see Ward for himself. (This is in stark contrast to Simmons and Daisy, who recognize what the evidence for what it is and judge Ward to be evil.) Meanwhile, Fitz tries to rationalize a way that Wardโs betrayal, might not actually be real. For instance, he suggests that Ward is being controlled by Garrett via certain methods that theyโd seen used on other people prior to that point.
Ne:
โYou know, Iโd run a dozen scenarios in my head wondering what itโd be like when we finally met. Thereโs a lot more blood, and I never considered the smell.โ
โHow big is the box?โ
Fit runs scenarios in his head outside of work situations, which he expresses to Will shortly after meeting him on the other planet. He claims to have considered a dozen different ways the situation might play out. However, Fitz canโt always see possibilities, which is why he assumes that Mack is dead when Mack gets co-opted by the ancient, underground city. Simmons is the one to suggest otherwise.
Fitzโs inferior Ne manifests relatively clearly in his need for specificity. Like Ward, when presented with the desert island scenario by Agent Koenig, Fitz feels the need to clarify details about the island and the box, before deciding whatโs in it. Essentially, he has to narrow down the possibilities to something more realistic and manageable. He canโt just be open to any and all possibilities.
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Reading through this, I just thought of how this could also double as an ISFJ vs. INTP article lol.
Reading this, Caesarโs and Captain Americaโs articles it seems like a common high priority for ISFJs is keeping the group together? Is that specifically related to their high Si function or is it solely a Fe trait? Would one of the Fe users with Ni be as focused on this?
Probably going to read some articles on XSFJ characters and XNFJ characters to see if I notice any common trends to how they deal with this.
I think the high Fe basically makes them feel a need for unity. Since the focus will be held on the feelings and values of the external, it makes Fe users emphazise a certain level of harmony, unity and camaraderie.
Now keep in mind, that the Fe of IXFJs is in service of their dom. funtion, which means that their Fe is serving as a tool to enact action on their perceived information (Si or Ni). So the INFJ might have a vision they aim towards and focus on Fe metrics to bring that to reality, where as an ISFJ has the Si replica of reality in their head and strives to maintain the good and change the bad, based on their experiences to ensure a certain lvl of safety. Might be wrong on this, feel free to disagree.
I agree with what Infinity said and wanted to add more.
Imo, Fe and Te are both unity-oriented. Ti (with low Fe) and Fi (with low Te) can also be depending on how balanced they are, but they donโt seem as stressed when thereโs division unless something violates their system or values.
Iโm a Te dom and ping ponged between SFJs and some other types because Je (extraverted judging) functions want closure and concensus around systems, rules, hierarchies, etc. Outside of themselves.
Antonia Dodge (from Personality Hacker) basically says that perceivers want their inner world organized and outer world can be whatever while judging types want the world and whatโs happening outside themselves to be under control (by themselves or something they trust).
I donโt have many Ni users in my life so I canโt speak much, but the SFJs in my life tend to be more exact in *how* they want unity to happen + when + what unity looks like (Si+ Je) while NFJs tend to be moreโฆ directional, vague and hands-off?
As long as the NFJsโ overall direction is achieved, they donโt care. (Hence the sage/ life coach/ mentor archetype lol)
Againโ if Iโm wrong correct me. Just basing it off the peeps I got in my life. ๐
Hopefully that helps!
Thank you for the replies, Infinity and Ping. From what Iโve gathered from your replies, it kind of sounds like itโs Fe exerting itโs Extraverted judging nature to control the emotional environment and how the IXFJ does it depends on what ends their dominant function wants to bring about.
I guess for the ISFJs I mentioned maybe it was: Capโs accumulated experiences as a leader resulted in good Si protocols, one of which was sticking together, which he used Fe to bring about. (Civil War notwithstanding.)
Caesarโs experiences leading him to adopt an Si principle of always sticking together, and he used Fe means to keep everyone together? (I just saw the first movie, so Iโm assuming a lot here lol.)
I think in Leopoldโs case it was more Feโs Extraverted judging nature not liking the โdissentโ those events caused in his desired emotional atmosphere. (One of his quotes also says he doesnโt like change, which probably contributed.) [Also havenโt watched Agents of SHIELD, so still assuming a lot, haha.]
Hi Mara,
Would you give any example regarding how INTP might learn something?
You once said,
โIโve always wished I could be the type that just explored and learned with no specific goal in mind. My ENFP brother excelled at that. He got into Linux and just played around with it, did random things, tested out various distros, etc. I tried it once. I would end up staring at my screen like, now what do I do?โ
Will an INTP also learn like how your brother doesโฆ?
Learning styles can vary, but INTPs should be conceptual learners, to some degree. What I was describing about my brother had to do with how his โusefulโ hobbies didnโt need a specific purpose. He could fiddle with things, learning a lot as a byproduct. My learning is usually more intentional, because I donโt typically just experiment with no specific reason. This could have to do with him being a dominant extraverted perceiver, while Iโm only an auxiliary. Or, it could have to do with him having Ne and me having Se. Possibly a bit of both.
Got it. Thanks Mara!
Fitz became my favorite character on re-watch. Iโm curious, the season 4โs framework offered a different version of Fitz. Leopold was a much darker version of Fitz. From your watch did that version of him also display ISFJ traits, or did you see evidence of a different type?
The framework version of Fitz still appeared to be an ISFJ. He was just devoted to someone who was evil. Note that he was constantly being emotionally manipulated, he was focused on pleasing Aidi and his father, and he was still being accused of being weak and sensitive (or something like that. I canโt recall the exact words that were used).