ISTJ vs ISTP: 10 Differences
Iโve often seen people torn between ISTJ vs ISTP for their personality type. Anyone who has gone down the deep rabbit hole that is the cognitive functions may question how these two types could be mistaken. However, itโs surprisingly common. Sure, there are certain ways in which these two types are drastically different, but there are also scenarios in which they can seem quite similar. Of course, my aim in this article is to focus on the differences. If you or someone you know is struggling with this ISTJ vs ISTP type dilemma, hopefully this article will provide a much clearer picture of how these two types differ.
Beware of Bias
Itโs important to be aware of any biases that you may have concerning these two personality types, and to set them aside in order to draw an accurate conclusion. In this particular scenario, and frankly in most scenarios, the ISTJ personality type tends to be the least desirable. There are a lot of extreme, unappealing, and/or unfair stereotypes associated with the ISTJ that causes many true ISTJs to mistakenly identify as anything but an ISTJ. Comparatively, the ISTP is portrayed in a much more positive light, making it overall more desirable. Try to approach this topic objectively and honestly.
ISTJ vs ISTP: Cognitive Functions
While the ISTJ and ISTP are only one letter different, they actually have completely different cognitive function stacks. The Judging vs. Perceiving dichotomy actually makes a huge difference in this regard, in spite of how similar their Myers-Briggs code is. The ISTJ has dominant Introverted Sensing (Si), auxiliary Extraverted Thinking (Te), tertiary Introverted Feeling (Fi), and inferior Extraverted Intuition (Ne). The ISTP has dominant Introverted Thinking (Ti), auxiliary Extraverted Sensing (Se), tertiary Introverted Intuition (Ni), and inferior Extraverted Feeling (Fe).
In summary, their cognitive function stacks are as follows:
ISTJ = Si-Te-Fi-Ne
ISTP = Ti-Se-Ni-Fe
Why Does This Mistype Happen?
More often than not, ISTJs tend to mistype as ISTPs because they donโt feel as rigid or inflexible as the descriptions indicate. Many also donโt see themselves as tradition-oriented or sentimental. Remember, traditions are subjective. An ISTJ may not adhere to cultural or widespread traditions because they grew up with a different set of traditions. The result can be an ISTJ that doesnโt adhere to whatโs normal for their area. In addition, many people think of traditions as being sentimentally driven, but ISTJs are thinkers first. They often cling to โtraditionโ with logical or practical reasons in mind, rather than sentimental ones.
Of course, it is possible for ISTPs to mistype as ISTJs. When this happens, itโll usually be the result of the ISTP being mature and disciplined. In other words, the ISTP will have adopted some generally healthy character attributes that people like to associate primarily with judgers.
Similarities
The combination of sensing, and thinking, despite the differing cognitive function orientation, makes both ISTP and ISTJ practical and realistic. These types typically value concrete data, and thus tend to relay that type of information in their communication with others. Both types are prone to being blunt and critical, although it may be expressed under different circumstances. In addition, being introverts, the ISTJ and ISTP usually appear level-headed and emotionally contained.
ISTJ vs ISTP: 10 Differences
Note: Bear in mind, that in this article Iโm discussing ISTJ vs ISTP tendencies, not absolutes. In addition, focus on identifying your default tendencies. If youโre a mature adult, your weaknesses or imbalances may no longer be prevalent because youโve learned to account for them or accommodate them. Try to remember what your natural leanings were. Those will be the most telling.
1. ISTJs use objective logic, while ISTPs use subjective logic.
This is a key difference in distinguishing ISTJ vs ISTP. ISTJs have Extraverted Thinking, or Te. Extraverted functions are objective, or externally focused. What this means is that the primary focus of an ISTJs logic is to systematize their environment. Te logic is the type of logic that focuses on finding solutions to real world problems. As a result, ISTJs usually (assuming theyโre comfortable with you) will be quick to offer practical advice that will solve whatever problem youโre facing. Subjective logic, on the other hand has an entirely different focus. Sure, ISTPs could consciously redirect their Introverted Thinking (Ti), and focus it on real world problem, but that is not Tiโs default focus. Rather, as subjective logic, itโs focused on understanding, sorting, and categorizing data into a personalized system for the userโs understanding. So, an ISTPโs instinct is not typically to solve your problem, but rather to make a mental note of it as data point for understanding you.
2. ISTJs look to the past to plan for the future, while ISTPs are present-oriented.
ISTJs arenโt always โstuck in the pastโ like the stereotypes suggest, but they do consciously use their past experiences to inform their present. (They internalize their experiences into detailed subjective impressions that they use to inform the present/future.) Many ISTJs have a long term goal in mind, or a picture of how they want their life to go, based on their past. Theyโll make their decisions with that outcome in mind. This may mean sacrificing their present to ensure their future. ISTPs, on the other hand, are living life for the journey, not the destination. These types donโt always have a long term goal, but when they do, itโs usually simplistic or vague. Theyโd rather enjoy what life has to offer now, and see where it leads them. Bear in mind that responsible ISTPs wonโt throw away their future for temporary pleasure. Instead, their approach will be to make decisions that generally point them in the direction that they want to go, rather than thinking several steps ahead. If they donโt enjoy their current path, theyโll be more likely to switch to a different one or choose a different destination.
3. ISTJs prefer to have a plan, while ISTPs prefer to figure things out as they go.
ISTJs are typically uncomfortable with spontaneity. (A surprise trip to a place theyโve gone to a million times does not count as spontaneity.) Inferior Ne gives them a fear of the unknown. So, their reaction to that fear will be to research and plan ahead. Theyโll ask detailed questions, plan out their vacations, and try to account for every possible negative outcome. In stark contrast to this, ISTPs will enjoy a bit of uncertainty. They may want a loose plan or guideline for certain things, but they will prefer keeping things more open-ended. Youโll see this basic difference color how ISTJs and ISTPs approach problems. For instance, ISTJs will want to think out the best course of action before acting. Whereas, ISTPs will choose a course of action much more quickly, because theyโre comfortable working out the details as they go.
4. ISTJs view reality through the lens of their sensory impressions, while ISTPs see the present through fresh eyes.
This another key difference in the ISTJ vs ISTP dilemma. Essentially, ISTJs are constantly comparing past experiences with current experiences, which leads to having very specific expectations for how things should be. This results in a few different behaviors and strengths. For instance, ISTJs avoid mistakes like the plague. Theyโre often very precise, meticulous, and consistent in how they do things in order to ensure their desired outcome. Theyโre good at doing something the exact same way as before, assuming they liked the result. ISTPs do not approach reality like that. Each experience is judged on its own merit, rather than being compared to a specific past experience. The lack of high expectations leads to fewer disappointments, allowing them to enjoy themselves with much less effort or preparation. For ISTPs, itโs more important to enjoy a wide range of experiences, or a variety, rather than fine-tuning specific ones. However, the downside is that theyโre prone to repeating mistakes multiple times, and they may struggle to do something the same way twice, since theyโre not storing away detailed sensory impressions for future comparison.
5. ISTJs often use absolute wording, while ISTPs struggle to state definites.
ISTJs wonโt necessarily feel certain about everything, but having high Te will often make them sound that way. (Te innately seeks to adapt the environment to an external standard.) So, an ISTJโs wording will frequently come across as absolute, like theyโre simply stating facts, especially in comparison to the ISTPs, who rely on qualifiers (like maybe, probably, usually, etc.) in order to avoid stating anything for certain. (Ti causes them to fixate on all the potential layers of context, resulting in a struggle to verbalize an absolute judgement.)
6. ISTJs prioritize external order, while ISTPs tend to be more chaotic.
ISTJs are known for being neat and tidy, which is due to their Si-Te combination. (Te orders the environment based on Siโs specific template.) However, ISTJs are not always perfectly organized and staunchly disciplined. A lot of this depends on age and maturity. But, the average ISTJ will prefer an environment that is orderly and calm. In addition, what they deem organized will look organized to most people. (Organization is one of their natural strengths.) ISTPs, in contrast, are perceivers, which means that disorder and chaos are less bothersome. On top of that, they have a high introverted judging function (Ti), so their sense of order will be more subjective. In other words, theyโll likely appear more disorganized than they actually are. (They may get frustrated with someone who organizes their space, because in spite of appearances, the way it was โorganizedโ before actually made sense to them.)
7. ISTJs utilize available products for the sake of efficiency, while ISTPs like to reinvent the wheel.
High Te users, or TJs, are results-oriented, meaning that they prefer to reach their goal as quickly and efficiently as possible. In order to do this, they will use any and all products at their disposal. ISTPs will appear inefficient by contrast, because ISTPs often prioritize gaining an in depth, personal understanding of the process over the goal itself. Due to this, ISTPs (and other TPs) are known for โreinventing the wheelโ, because they may actually prefer to recreate a product themselves, rather than utilize one that is already in existence. (This is assuming that the ISTP actually cares about the project, and/or isnโt on too strict of a deadline.)
8. ISTJs readily give detailed explanations, while ISTPs may struggle to explain what theyโre thinking.
Since ISTJs are building subjective impressions with concrete data (via Si), they can often produce explanations fairly easily. Theyโre usually good a pinpointing their exact reasoning behind a conclusion, and sharing that when prompted. For ISTPs, this will actually be more of a struggle, because their subjective impressions are built with abstract data (via Ni). In addition, since their logic is subjective, it may also take some time for them to figure out how to verbalize it in a way that makes external sense. Due to this Ti-Ni combination, ISTPs are known for giving brief, to-the-point answers/explanations (or the โgistโ), when prompted. Theyโre also typically comfortable acting on instincts (as perceivers with an abstract internal world).
9. ISTJs are often aware of their personal feeling, while ISTPs may feel disconnected from their feelings.
ISTJs have tertiary Fi. Fi connects them in to their own personal feelings. They often know exactly what theyโre feeling, even if they devalue or ignore those feelings. In comparison, ISTPs have inferior Fe, which focuses them on the external emotional environment. Their connection to self is via Ti, which from a feeling standpoint, is more impersonal or detached. As a result, ISTPs often struggle with emotional delays. They may not feel anything in the moment, or if they do, they may fail to understand what theyโre feeling.
10. ISTJs feel disconnected from the emotional environment, while ISTPs are tuned into the emotional environment.
As Fi users, and more specifically low Fi users, ISTJs are naturally detached from the external, emotional environment. Many ISTJs learn to identify peopleโs emotions based on concrete observations, but they wonโt naturally be in tune to them. The result is that they often fail to understand the emotional ramifications of their actions. They may frustrate their loved ones by trying to solve problems the way they would want them solved, rather than recognizing what the other person actually wants or needs. In comparison, ISTPs have inferior Fe which tunes them into the emotional environment, albeit very minimally. This often leads to more insecurities concerning social acceptance and social protocol. Many ISTPs find themselves periodically overthinking insignificant social rules, being hyper-conscious of the reactions of others (which they actually feel inadequate at truly understanding), and avoiding situations with a lot of social protocol.
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I found really interesting to read this detailed comparison between this two introvert types sharing the same functions (S+T), but different orientations (i/e)โฆ
I think an important thing to say about ISTJs that stereotypes completely miss out is that ISTJs only adhere to tradition if it has proven to be good or efficient. If not, they wonโt mind giving it away. They can even firmly reject it if it has proven to be harmful.
Another difference I noted between ISTPs and ISTJs is their way to be fun. The ISTPs I know have an easy, smart, and sometimes sharp humor. Theyโre naturally playful. Itโs like a constant way to be. I often feels that โfunโ is the highest compliment they can say about something/someone (along with โsmartโ, maybe).
The ISTJs I know can also be very fun, but this will be in moments when they allow themselves to, so it comes more in phases. And it seems to me that theyโre very prone to self-parody, due to Fi I guess. ISTJs I know have a bizarre sense of humor, the kind of joke that makes me laugh even if I donโt really get it. I think their strict look gives them a great comic power when they decide to release their โweirdโ side.
Eventually, I would be very interested in a โtyping dilemnaโ article on ISTJ/ISFJ.
I struggle to type my Si-dom friends, because when they talk about tradition and society rules, I fail to tell if theyโre using Te or Fe. We sometimes argue about how things should be done, or how one should behave, and their main argument is โeveryone does this wayโ. I can easily recognise Si here, but then I find Te and Fe auxiliary not so easy to tell.
Thanks again for all the quality job youโre doing here !
My bad, I just saw that you actually wrote such an article a few months ago.
As an ISTP with what I think is an ISTJ mother, I could never confuse the two. Iโve debated both ESTJ and ISFJ for her as well, but she doesnโt show any of the โinability to slow downโ Iโve seen attributed to ESTJs (though you get in her way when sheโs cooking at your peril), and seems entirely oblivious to Fe concerns at times (though when itโs with me, I can hardly blame her for not seeing past the blank mask sometimes).
She cares entirely too much about where things go in her cupboards, where Iโd just put things where thereโs space. She came down to my flat and within about a minute had noticed the dust on the blinds. She insists on proper English, even where the thing sheโs arguing about has pretty much fallen out of use (though admittedly, I have picked up a few of her pet peeves when it comes to speech and language).
On the other hand, sometimes a Te kick is just what you need for getting out of a rut.
Great explanation Mara, although the gist of the distinctions reminded me that no one is pure type. Combine that with maturity, I can see in myself as an ISTP type, of having a lot in common with ISTJ types. Wanting things organized is something I like but only when it affects my getting things done, like when cooking. The same goes for my garage when needing to get to equipment to do lawn work.