Real Inferior Fe based on Carl Jung
In the past, I’ve written multiple articles about inferior Fe. I wrote Inferior Fe from the Mind of an ISTP, Positive Inferior Fe from the Mind of an ISTP, and Inferior Fe in Relation to Social Anxiety. Unfortunately, I believe I made an error in regard to its true nature. I’m not saying that my prior articles were outright wrong, but I accidentally overly associated inferior Fe with social anxiety, and that was a mistake. So many people suffer from social anxiety, and as a result, a lot of types can relate to content about inferior Fe, when that’s how it’s described. However, inferior Fe and social anxiety are two different things, so my aim here is to set the record straight.
Wait, Carl Jung Talked About Inferior Functions?
If you know anything about Carl Jung and his book, Psychological Types, you may feel a bit confused that I’ve cited Carl Jung’s name in the title. After all, Carl Jung only spoke about dominant functions, right? Well, what Carl Jung did was explain extreme versions of each dominant function, or dominant type.
Cognitive functions operate in pairs. They’re inseparable. It’s actually really difficult to talk about one cognitive function without somehow involving its other half. That’s why when you read character analyses that are organized into individual function sections, you’ll often see some evidence or examples repeated in two different sections. It can be hard to avoid.
Carl Jung spoke about each dominant function in such a polarizing way that it’s actually really easy to see the influence of the opposing, inferior function. In reading the Ti section, I was able to gain some insight on how inferior Fe and dominant Ti influence or oppose each other. That’s what I want to share with you in this article.
First, Some Thoughts About Dominant Fe
Dominant Fe users excel at utilizing social structure to their advantage. They often excel at working within social protocol, and influencing people in an effective way. I’m speaking generally here, because there are exceptions to every rule. However, you’ll often find that a healthy ENFJ or ESFJ is rather good at connecting with people and communicating with them effectively. They usually know how to relay ideas or thoughts in a relatable and personable way. That’s why they often get the reputation for being diplomats and teachers. So, with that in mind, take a look at the contrast in the quote below about Ti types, from Carl Jung’s Psychological Types.
A Quote about Dominant Ti and Inferior Fe
Real Inferior Fe
Before I delve into this, it’s important to note that people can develop their inferior function and improve the balance between their Ti/Fe. I’m about to call out key obstacles or issues INTPs and ISTPs face because of their inferior Fe, but that doesn’t mean you have to be trapped in those issues right now or for the rest of your life to qualify as one of these personality types. However, a true IXTP should feel (or have felt) the influence of their inferior Fe gnawing at them at some point. Personally, I was struck by how relatable the struggle relayed in the above quote was to me.
1. Inferior Fe users are anti-marketing
For ISTPs and INTPs, the pure logic or legitimacy of the idea should reign supreme. These types are willing to pursue any idea or thought that might be true, regardless of the implications. However, once they discover what they deem to be true, they don’t want to have to dumb it down for you. (Bear in mind, I’m not saying these types are inherently smart; I’m speaking from their perspective.)
Practically speaking, this means that an IXTP that produces a “novel” idea will innately struggle that idea of marketing that idea to others, beyond relaying or demonstrating the pure rationale of the idea. Stereotypically, this is why you see the genius inventor always teaming up with a business partner. The inventor usually lacks the business sense, and needs the partner, yet often struggles with the tactics utilized by the business partner. In an IXTP’s ideal world, all they should have to do is explain what they produced or thought of, and people should automatically get it and see it’s value. If the idea or product is good, it should thrive without any social effort.
Personal Example:
A key component in making a blog successful is catering to Google’s search algorithm. This means utilizing keywords, popular search phrases, structuring articles in certain ways, etc. I was extremely resistant to that idea for the first few years of Practical Typing’s existence, because it felt like it would detract from the blog’s value in some way. In my mind, if the content is good, we shouldn’t have to cater the way we write to some algorithm, or whatever is currently popular. People should just see it’s value, and Practical Typing should quickly gain traction via word of mouth. Unfortunately, that’s my Ti idealism. It’s impractical and unrealistic. (This sentiment tended to put Ryan and me at odds, because he’s a high Te user.)
2. Inferior Fe users dismiss the value of connections
High extraverted judgers (FJs or TJs) typically recognizes the value in utilizing the system to their advantage. This often includes the people in it. Remember the saying, “It’s not what you know. It’s who you know”? ISTPs and INTPs by default want to rise through the ranks purely on their own skill, knowledge or merit. They don’t want to have to cater to others, make themselves likeable, etc. That’s not to say they won’t want friends or won’t be personable, but in their minds, none of that should matter in a professional sense or be rooted in a long term success strategy. These types have a strong independent streak. Social connections are not something they’ll want to go out of their way to form.
3. Inferior Fe users may dismiss the value of credentials
Sometimes official education (which typically results in credentials of some kind) is necessary to learn a trade or profession. Other times, one can learn a skill without going through any official program. However, many people value credentials. They like to see it as proof of the person’s expertise or legitimacy. So, in many cases, it’s valuable to “collect” credentials to bolster your personal marketability. This is a concept that INTPs and ISTPs may innately struggle with. After all, like I mentioned in the previous point, they believe their skill/knowledge should speak for itself. The concept of gaining credentials for the sake of currying favor or earning legitimacy will frustrate them and feel like a frivolous waste of time.
4. Inferior Fe users can fail to infuse emotional value into their work
Inferior feelers are often disconnected from their own emotions and emotions in general to some degree. As a result, many inferior feelers struggle to connect with people in a deep, meaningful, or intimate way. However, another aspect of the feeling function is it’s focus on emotional value. People like to relate the feeling functions (and thus, feelers) to values, but technically every individual has values (Feeling vs Thinking: What Are Values?). The feeling functions specifically deal with the personal, emotional, and social implications of values. So, getting back to inferior Fe, the struggle that an INTP or ISTP may have is infusing value into their work in such a way that other people will find it valuable or relatable.
Personal Example:
For instance, as someone who blogs about personality theory, my strength is cognitive function analysis, while my glaring weakness is writing articles on personal development. I’ve frequently avoided them, even though that’s one of the biggest benefits personality theory has to offer. I’ve been trying to work on that lately, but my natural impulse is just to share analysis and rationale. If people can gain a deeper understanding of personality theory, they’ll figure out the development stuff themselves… right?
Second Example:
I knew an INTP who was into art, primarily graphics and video making. His approach to creating appealing art was not at all personal. He didn’t put his “heart and soul” into it, or infuse his own personal taste. Rather, he appraoched it in an entirely detached manner, and analyzed what made other successful works of art popular. Once he determined that, he would incorporate relevant elements into his work, so that he could ultimately produce something that was appealing and successful.
5. Inferior Fe users have anxiety concerning social protocol, not social anxiety in general
OK, here’s where I’ve often gotten inferior Fe wrong. Many people suffer from social anxiety. An IXTP’s anxiety is more specific than that. An IXTP who is starting to develop their inferior Fe, or at the very least, has not suppressed it, will simultaneously feel aware of, yet blind to, social protocol. In other words, they know it’s there, and that it should be adhered to, but they don’t know how to do that. If the IXTP doesn’t care to make any kind of impact or find their role in society, then this awareness may not matter to them. They’ll avoid scenarios that are too cumbersome, and make friends that don’t emotionally or socially pressure them. (People, generally speaking, may not actually be a source of stress.) However, the anxiety will kick in when their inferior Fe begins developing enough to give them a desire to make a social impact or find where they belong.
In the quote above, Carl Jung said, “he is none the less beset by the greatest anxiety if ever he has to make it an objective reality.”
This anxiety is specific to when Ti dominants want to take their ideas/knowledge and implement them within reality (in other words, contribute to society). They’re aware of their struggle to make a social impact and emotionally connect with others, but feel compelled on some level to share their ideas or abilities with the world. In that area, they feel inferior, and fear rejection or failure because of this inadequacy. (Yet, the very idea that they could be successful if they simply found a way to adapt whatever they’re capable of contributing stirs up some level of disdain within themselves because their work in it’s purest form should be good enough.)
In Conclusion…
I really really really hope that made sense, and that I’ve managed to draw a clearer line between inferior Fe users and other personality types. Feel free to share any feedback you have. I’ll tweak this article as needed to make it as accurate as possible.
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Interesting read. Will you do one like this on inferior Te?
I could definitely add that to my list. Maybe turn this into a series.
Thank you very much for another useful article on the analysis of cognitive functions. If you don’t mind, I would like to know how the relationship between auxiliary Ti and tertiary Fe is manifested.
I will be glad if you find the time and desire to answer.
The imbalance between auxiliary Ti and tertiary Fe will be less extreme. So, tertiary Fe users are usually more willing to play the social game for the sake of success. Auxiliary Ti will also get less rigid about their logic or internal systems, and more willing to adapt to whatever their dominant function is perceiving. The reason, for instance, ENTPs are known for playing devil’s advocate is because they’re most willing to argue both sides of an issue to test the logic or validity regardless of which side they actually agree with.
“In my mind, if the content is good, we shouldn’t have to cater the way we write to some algorithm, or whatever is currently popular. People should just see it’s value, and Practical Typing should quickly gain traction via word of mouth. Unfortunately, that’s my Ti idealism. It’s impractical and unrealistic. (This sentiment tended to put Ryan and me at odds, because he’s a high Te user.)”
The irony is that it’s exactly how I found you guys – through word of mouth (Joyce Meng). So your Ti idealism is not that unrealistic haha. Although it could be argued that you played the social game just enough to have your blog promoted in that way xd
I initially only agreed to do the first interview with Joyce because Ryan inadvertently shamed me into it. 😭😭 He was willing; I was not… Until I found out he was and felt pathetic. So, if it had been solely up to me, that accidental “social game” I played would have never happened.
That’s a happy accident haha. I’ve been reading you guys’ blog sporadically for like two years lurking in the shadows lol. Great stuff 😉
I also came here from Joyce! Your comment reminds me of the quote from Elon Musk,
“At Tesla, we’ve never spent any money on advertising. We’ve put all our money into R&D, engineering, design, and manufacturing to build the best car possible. When we consider spending money, we ask, ‘Will this create a better product?’ If not, we don’t proceed with spending the money.”
I think it’s the result of Practical Typing being the best & unique product that enables people to share it with others(word of mouth).I also believe Elon is an INTP.
Ohhhh, very interesting and somewhat controversial take. If I’m not mistaken, popular opinion on Elon Musk is ENTP. I personally have no opinion of my own because I don’t pay attention to celebrities at all. Although, I had someone recommend writing up celebrity type profiles to help make PT popular. 😩
Thanks for the comment and kind words!
Yes. Whatever works best. Right now I see that on YouTube the competition to type celebrities is huge because like you said, it is the logical step forward in making whatever the “product” is, popular. (I based my conclusion on Elon being an INTP due to said videos. I unfortunately don’t have adequate knowledge on typology.)
I didn’t mean that you should do the celebrity type profiles, I just wanted to let you know that there’s competition in doing those sort of things.
No worries. I didn’t take it that way.
I don’t think your description is mutually exclusive with Carl Jung’s, it actually goes hand in hand. I’m INTP and as a young child aged 3 and 4 I didn’t speak to my family at all and was completely isolated. In fact, however, I had not had any social anxiety around my family, just no social interest and was overly apathetic and isolated. However, being unfamiliar with unfamiliar people or creatures, I was afraid because I suspected evil and had no experience with strangers. I was often told that I was very shy when I was in elementary school and walked fearfully and cautiously through a crowd of people. However, compared to other fe-inf, I don’t come across to them as someone who has social anxiety at all, but rather as someone who is cool and easy-going. My Fe-inf tends to show that I’m afraid of saying the wrong thing in social interactions and appearing strange to others.
With another friend who is ISTP, the situation is different. His f-inf doesn’t show up as worrying about embarrassing or being awkward like I do, he just doesn’t understand social interactions and find them rather stupid and illogical, which is why he logically questions any social courtesy and seeks the meaning in it.
While social interaction makes me think “What do normal people say in this situation so I don’t seem awkward”, however, he thinks “Why are you telling me the weather is nice even though it’s overly cloudy and some gray clouds are forming? I don’t think that’s nice.”
I’m trying to be social, he’s trying to be logical. Thus, both descriptions fit Fe-inf.
Thanks for your input! I definitely agree with you. What I’ve described in the past can definitely be a way that inferior Fe manifests, but I’ve seen so many other types relate to a lot of “inferior Fe” stuff simply because it ultimately describes social anxiety… which is the mistake.
I enjoyed that post!
Point 4 reminds me of my spending half a semester in a fine arts degree. I thought it made sense to do it because I was pretty good at drawing/painting, but I realized that I simply like to draw things in an accurate manner. I was solely focused on the technique of accurately sketching a scenery, animal, etc. but when it came to coming up with abstract emotional ideas, I was completely inadequate and found the other students in the degree quite fascinating.
I also read your section on inferior Fe in the “5 differences between ESTP and ISTP” and they made me cringe at myself, haha.
And after rewriting this comment, deleting, and adding stuff more times than I’d like to admit, here we go. (You’re welcome for deleting a whole ramble).
The more I learn about inferior Fe, the more impressed I am with how many similarities inferior feelers have. (Assuming my memory’s and understanding are not screwing me over again, heh).
I don’t get the point of personal development stuff either, and I’ve always groaned and rolled my eyes at the whole networking thing. Just feels like an ankle weight most of the time unless I’m curious. (But we all know how quick that Ne novelty can die lol).
I found the INTP artist thing fascinating though, since I’ve thought of doing the exact same thing. (Never did it though). I think I did something similar with writing when I was younger with some of my stories.
Questions
1. I see self-expression and all that “Express yourself” stuff associated with FP types, but does it resonate with you in any way, or nah? I’m assuming a Ti dom’s way of “expressing themselves” is sharing unfiltered logic. I don’t remember how I thought or felt about it when I was younger, but I have a meh understanding of it. (I don’t do it though cuz it’s embarrassing and uncomfortable for me).
2. Do you think INTPs would grasp or mimic Fe faster than ISTPs? Because of Si internalizing specific incidences and Ni remembering the impression? <– wildly oversimplified, I know, but you know what I mean 😅
3. Not a question, but props to you for reading Psychological Types. I tried reading it a few weeks ago and… yeah… 💀
Thanks for reading!
Ping 🙂
1. Yeah, the term “express yourself” has always been kinda… eye roll-ey to me, but I guess that kinda depends on context. I tend to appreciate the freedom to share my opinions and not have to filter my thoughts constantly (not that I would always take advantage of that), but I’ve never had much of a desire to visually express myself in terms of interests, preferences, and all that. I’d rather wear muted clothing with little to no accessories, fly under the radar, and then feel someone out before sharing what I’m into.
2. Well, people have different takes on this. Some say INTPs will be generally weirder and disconnected from normal society, since they are intuitives, while ISTPs can use Se to observe the environment and respond more practically. I think this more depends on whether the IXTP actually wants to mimic Fe, rather than which specific type they are.
3. Lol, thanks. To be fair, I’ve technically only read Chapter 10, which is the one that describes the types. I’ll attempt the full book at some point.
I really love your work. As an SE user I like how concrete your texts and communication style is. This is now one of my favourite sites 😀
Thank you!
This (as well as the rest of your blog) is an interesting read. I stumbled across it when I was randomly browsing the internet in class, and fell down a rabbit hole. The communication style is not overly complicated, which I think made the entire reading process more enjoyable to me (non-native English user). Thank you for your work!
While I’m not sure that I’m a Fe inf user, some of the things you mentioned got me cringe at myself. My social game is definitely that bad, though I’m willing to play it. Sometimes I wish I could just have someone to tell me all the things I have to do before I enter a social event, so that every confusion is cleared up.
That was nice, a bit complicated, and for me personally, it sounded all over the place and weird for my brain to melt it with another stuff. Hhhmmm 🤔.
Still, much appreciated.
Now, if you interested, please make one to differentiate and to help to see this topic in a different way. About how social anxiety (or just simply being anxious) affects higher Fe, especially the one with inferior Se too (because the SiFe one seems better at it in some way, they probably have an easier time to appreciate more of the system they were introduced to since birth). For me, high Fe, low Se with social anxiety sounds like hell. Aside that, we often hear people say about how NiFe prepare what they want to say to others or something like that related to “incapability” in social situations. How Ni-Dom have problems to say what is in their mind, so they end up being vague or they do not even talk. Which it seems it was not just the unhealthy ones that have that kind of problem. Assuming they are not mistyped. How, with all of that, they still can influence people in an effective way, make a good impression on others.
Some of the points you mentioned seem to affect higher Fe users too. Maybe because you mentioned the word value in there, which could be related to personal ideals. Besides, most people don’t like social structure in a professional way(esp 2,3,4), right? You think so? I hope so.. And the way the system works could be so much different in different places, and scenarios. And one would have a harder or easier time depending on how it aligns with our own view. But imagine if the general/common way of the play had the same core rules. And we just hate it. It would be mentally exhausting even for the one who has the capability to run in every track.. maybe even for seasoned player too. If I remember it from your other article, you said something about how it was not only about this and that (I forgot the words sorry) but Cognitive Reasoning. So it probably all rooted back to that. Like for higher Fe, maybe someone would hate it because they felt that the system so unfair for a certain minority, for his/her friends. Added with how somehow felt we could be part of that minority even if we are not. So it just put the anger and resentment in the subconscious mind and puff “You are affected by anxiety disease…”. Cmiiw
(It was hard to explain, but I hope you understand what I confused with.
Besides, my English is at a fetus level, I hope no one gets offended with my words. Thanks for reading and understanding, that was sweet. 🙂)