Wednesday: Wednesday Addams (ENTJ)
The Jenny Ortega iteration of Wednesday Addams is almost unanimously voted INTJ, as opposed to our ENTJ theory. We can definitely understand why. Sheโs a fairly obvious NTJ, who is also socially reclusive. However, it is common for Te dominants (ENTJs and ESTJs), to be socially introverted. (See 7 Reasons ENTJs and ESTJs Mistype as Introverts). Cognitively, Wednesday Addams doesnโt display the correct strengths and weaknesses for the INTJ personality type. Instead, Wednesday aligns much more with that of an ENTJ. Hopefully, youโll read our case with an open mind.
Te:
โOf course, I have a plan.โ
โI know. Sheโs both my literary hero and nemesis. And I have two years and 364 days to beat her.โ
โUse the words โlittleโ and โgirlโ to address me again, and I canโt guarantee your safety.โ
โYou brought a gun to a sword fight. Probably the first smart decision youโve made today.โ
โItโs amateurs like you who give kidnapping a bad name.โ
Wednesday is blunt and assertive. She forms opinions quickly, and doesnโt hesitate to share them. In fact, sheโs incredibly vocal in that regard. Wednesday doesnโt appear to keep much to herself, or need time to further reflect on what she thinks. Of course, her critical nature goes hand-in-hand with this. Wednesday is quick to dole out judgement in regard to how something has been executed, whether in the positive or the negative (although, sheโs usually more negative). For instance, she criticizes her kidnappers for their inadequate job of kidnapping her.
Wednesday prefers to remain in control at all times. She actively looks for ways that people might be trying to control her, calls them out, and actively fights against them. Although, this extends beyond people, and even includes objects or her general environment. For instance, she refuses to get a cell phone or laptop because she doesnโt want to be controlled by technology. This deep-seated need for physical control is a common tendency for high Te users, due to the way Te applies logic or rules to its physical environment for the sake of order.
Wednesday is goal-oriented, which plays into the bull-headed way that she pursues whatever sheโs obsessing over. She tends to be incredibly stubborn and determined to achieve whatever goal she has set for herself. For instance, she decides to โbeatโ her literary hero and nemesis by publishing a book at an earlier age. (She knows the exacts amount of time she has left to achieve this.) Generally speaking, Wednesday knows what she wants out of life, and plans accordingly. Anything not in her plan gets met with instant opposition.
Ni:
โI thought, well, at least Iโll have an imaginative death.โ
โEditors are short-sighted, fear-based life forms.โ
โI know Iโm stubborn, single-minded and obsessive.โ
โIโve always hated the expression โwrite what you knowโ. Itโs a hall pass for the imagination-impaired.โ
While Wednesdayโs Ni is fairly prominent, itโs not prominent enough to be dominant. For instance, while she does set her sights on long term goals, Wednesday isnโt shown doing any long term, intricate planning. Her tendency to launch quickly into action and adjust as she goes along is more indicative of a cognitive extravert, or at least someone with a higher extraverted perceiving function. However, thatโll be covered more in the later sections.
As for high Ni evidence in general, Wednesday demonstrates a single-mindedness that is common for NJs. Throughout the show, she remains fixated on the mystery playing out behind the scenes, and canโt help but obsess over it, to the detriment of herself and everyone around her. She doesntโ stop to โsmell the rosesโ or enjoy life in other ways unless circumstances force her too. Many think sheโs crazy for the varying theories that she expresses, but Wednesday doesnโt care. In addition, Wednesday has a flare for metaphorical or abstract language. This often surfaces in the creative yet pointed ways in which she insults or criticizes others.
Wednesday expresses a general disregard for anything normal, traditional, or known. She hates the expression โwrite what you knowโ because she views it as an excuse for those who lack imagination. This perspective is starkly opposed to that of a Si user, who actively relies on past experience. Similarly, in her determination to carve out her own path, Wednesday avoids gathering information from obvious, concrete sources, such as her mother in regard to their shared psychic ability.
Se:
โI enjoy funerals. Iโve been crashing them since I was old enough to read the obituary section.โ
Being your friend should come with a warning label. โ Xavier to Wednesday
โI admire your ability to be your own person and trust your own instincts, but that also makes you impatient and impulsive.โ โ Principal Weems to Wednesday
โGuess Iโm the lucky one with the new bestie that doesnโt try to find ways to endanger literally everybody she comes into contact with.โ โ Enid to Wednesday
Wednesday is quick to launch into action, and sheโs not afraid to get her hands dirty. Generally, Wednesday displays a preference for being in the middle of the action, experiencing life in real time. For instance, as a child, she wanted to actually experience grave digging, rather than just being generally interested in it. She also crashed funerals because she enjoyed them. Sheโs not typically one to just sit on the sidelines, or feel content remaining in a world of hypotheticals and theories.
Wednesday is impulsive and impatient. This is especially the case due to her dominant Te combined with tertiary Se. Her plans are not often well-thought-out, and in many instances, theyโre even reckless. She endangers herself and those around her, to the point of nearly getting them killed. In addition, she rarely acts in a subtle fashion, which often brings about drastic consequences. For instance, she takes revenge on the students who bulled her brother, but does so in an obvious way, resulting in her expulsion from the school. Sheโs definitely not one who struggles with spontaneity, and frequently makes split second decisions with no difficulty.
Fi:
โEmotion equals weakness.โ
โItโs not my fault I canโt interpret your emotional Morse code.โ
โHonestly, I wish I cared a little more.โ
โEmotions are a gateway trait. They lead to feelings, which trigger tears. I donโt do tears.โ
Wednesday displays common inferior Fi struggles, rather than inferior Se. While she has a decent sense of personal identity, sheโs detached from her emotions and emotions in general. While she spends most of the show claiming that she doesnโt care, Wednesday struggles to interpret other peopleโs emotions and finds her own confusing at times. Although, she generally tries to avoid feeling altogether. However, at one point, she expresses a desire to care more, which is more in line with an inferior feeler than a tertiary feeler. Tertiary feelers often feel like they care deeply about whatever it is they care about. Theyโre not so far detached from their feeling function to feel like they canโt care at all.
Wednesday is avidly against displays of weakness, which is a common struggle inferior Fi users have. She describes emotions as weakness, which is part of her rational for avoiding them. She describes friends similarly, as a liability to exploited, and therefore, a weakness. Her personality growth throughout the show has more to do with developing her feeling function, via exploring her own feelings and forming intimate connections with others, rather than developing her already-prominent Se.
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โAnd I have two years and 364 days to beat her.โ
Interesting how this was Te and not Si, since this is more detailed and specific than I expect from Ni users. I got Si and I donโt get that specific lol. (Iโm an ESTJ).
1. I get this may be nitpicky, but how detailed are Ni users then? Does higher Ni tend to be more detailed, or is that an Se thing?
A few thoughts:
I saw quite a few parallels between ENTJs and me (ESTJ) + a few questions.
2. Whatโs the difference between Te-Se and Te-Ne looping?
3. How would you tell the difference between a tunnel-visioned, looping and impulsive ESTJ and ENTJ? I get Ne plays a role, but what if neither of them talk much? (High Te can be concise like Ni).
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1. Detail-orientation or specificity is typically associated with the sensing function. However, anyone can get extremely specific with something thatโs important to them. Wednesday didnโt typically demonstrate specificity to that level, otherwise I may have regarded it as potential Si evidence. So, in this scenario, I was focusing on the goal-oriented nature of the quote.
2 & 3. A looping ENTJ gets extremely impulsive like a Se dominant would, while a looping ESTJ gets extremely impulsive like a Ne dominant would. So with the ESTJ, youโre probably going to see more sudden changes of course and idea hopping. If the ESTJ is tunnel-visioned, theyโre probably not loopingโฆ more like fixated on something tied to their Si.
Thanks!
Hey Mara!
Gotcha on both.
Thanks!
I agree with your response, Mara. Additionally, I can corroborate what you said about the looping ESTJโs idea hopping. I knew an ESTJ who was stuck in a long-term loop that would idea hop often enough to be noticeable, and sometimes in mid-sentence.
Reading this came to me a doubt, Fid oms can consider feelings a weakness or at least say things like that because of the kind of self-image they built in their minds? Or say things like โI donโt careโ? I think Iโve seen these types of phrases coming from some IxFP.
Sure, IXFPs can certainly become colder people, lacking in empathy. However, with Wednesday in particular, she seems to be far more detached from emotion in general, whether hers or others, than I would expect from a feeling dominant. An IXFP should still possess a depth of feeling, or close connection to their own emotions, even if they deny it around others.
Yes Darthmarcia I can relate. Iโve been typed Fi dom, but for me its the emotions Iโd rather deny and not show. I donโt often mind my feelings unless theyโre getting in the way.
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Watching the series I always thought of Wednesday as ExTJ (ENTJ>ESTJ)
In some cases I had considered INTJ (precisely in cases where she seemed to have a higher sense of identity), but Te was perfectly in line with every stereotype (especially extreme)
Consequently Te>Ni
โin her determination to carve out her own path, Wednesday avoids gathering information from obvious, concrete sources โฆ This perspective is opposed to Si user, who actively relies on past experienceโ
Question:
I also think that if you canโt solve something your way, it means you donโt understand what you have to do.
But I could resort to tested methods if I donโt know what the problem is about or if I risk wasting my time.
Is it always in line with high Ni?
Hey! Yeah, Te has a general desire to complete tasks as efficiently as possible, so a Te users of any type can definitely resort to tested methods. STJs will lean on those more heavily than NTJs, but that doesnโt mean an NTJ never will.
I knew she had to be some kind of NTJ ๐.
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I also donโt understand this unbelievable hype Wednesday as INTJ votes. People immediately see โReads literature, writes poetry, dislikes social media, is introverted and forward-lookingโ without paying attention to the content and disregard all situations where Wednesday has used Te and Se. People are struggling to keep Wednesday as an INTJ because INTJ has a cooler reputation than ENTJ.
Wednesdayโs plans and strategies are so impulsive, spontaneous, risky, and short-sighted that it cannot possibly be her inferior function. TeSe is so clear and obvious when you see how often she puts herself and others in danger.
Yep, people are basically gut typing her. Although, classic Myers-Briggs theory might actually type her as an INTJ because they adhere to the dichotomies which would make a social introvert an introverted type.
Something Iโve noticed (in myself and others) is a simplistic understanding of โemotions.โ ENTJs and ESTJs believe that emotions in general are weakness. But even ExTJs have to acknowledge thatโs not always true. For example, disdain, anger, boredom, and satisfaction are all emotions ExTJs will readily admit they haveโฆprobably often. But because they donโt make us vulnerable, we donโt consider them emotions. ExTJs are detached from emotions, no matter what kind, just as you pointed out in the article. We see all emotions as things outside ourselves. The non-vulnerable ones like anger, excitement, and boredom we use as self-motivation tools. When a vulnerable emotion like sadness or helplessness rears its sniveling head, we swat it away like a gnat.
Iโm actually pretty surprised with this typing. I would have bet money she was an ISTP. As a fellow ISTP I saw alot of her in me. Here are the reasons.
She constantly is obsessive in finding out the truth behind the mysteries behind the school, her fathers past, killings, the paintings, etc.
She also has that deadpan emotionless face the entire time.
She also doesnโt seem to care about any social dynamics and just goes does her own thing most of the time.
Canโt read people โ blind of the tribe โ Doesnโt care about what other people think of her- Lacks any type of social harmony
Not a very good planner and is impulsive
Confronts the bad guys without much plan and is shocked when the bad guy kills the teacher or when she confronts the hyde and almost dies
Wednesday is the stereotypical badass ISTP that can fight 3 boys with her bare hands